thanks you very much Dawn to shed some lights on this! Achieving your goals in the world and gaining recognition for your contribution to the world through whatever skill or talent you have to contribute, is easier and more satisfying when it's done together as a couple. I need all the help to understand I can get. We met 3 months ago, and live 300 miles apart. Comfy date, lots of laughter, he contacted me for a second date. (excuse my bad English) Then you naturally support each other's values and find peace in knowing that you both share the same values. Your comfort zone is found in genuine, self-expression. We see each other regularly in our spiritual activities, and yet live on opposite coasts, and though dedicated to each other 100% as spiritual allies (and possibly more), we have no intentions of giving up our day-to-day independence. The Moon is the emotion and the heart, in this example the Moon is the ruler of the 12th house and Jupiter is the ruler of the 5th house. This can make the composite-moon house, which is supposed to be a place of emotional comfort, a bit uncomfortable and confusing. Comfort is found in the relationship itself, almost as though it is a separate entity. It’s impossible to do one without composites or progressed composites. It has felt fated, mesmerizing, seductive, magnetic – and karmic. As the article says : “this being the 12th, most of the time the lesson is learning to love and then let go”. But I do have one question? Thank you for your reply Dawn . What do you think? Wow… very insightful thank you so much, I love your writing!! me and this guy who don’t know each other properly have same ascendants and house cusps natally. i have it conjunct in our davison3rd house- and opposite in4th-10th in composite. Jupiter in the 12th House Meaning, Natal Birth Chart, Jupiter Astrology Free Interpretations. I have to come to grips with it (what you said) altough it is not an easy thing for me when it comes to love (being an Aries lol I want to love with a passion and not just except it as an idea). When there are clusters of planets there are no simple solutions. Any insight you can offer would be greatly appreciated. Besides, his vertex conjunct with my sun and oppose w/ my moon. Beginning to look at our Composite Chart and come to find a Moon and Mars Conjunction in Leo 12th House. The 7th house cusp (of any chart) is influenced by its long association with Libra, a sign known for its quest for balance. venus all in the 12th house. Fame has its roots in the 12th because that is where we can serve as an example of a prime archetype–we can embody the zeitgeist of our age. The point is not that the telepathy is an illusion, the point is that it’s real, but it doesn’t matter. Finding emotional security in navigating the public and career worlds can help you achieve a great deal together. I can say with absolute confidence that you perfectly captured the essence of this energy. We have a meaningful journey to take together, but we must ultimately be alone. And would that mean -let’s say- if this person’s partner’s personal planets conjuncts to his north node would he lose the partner or would he lose “god” because he put that person (her planets) between himself and “god”! Regine. Indeed, I felt the fear trampling along the edge with fear of insecurity. The composite with the “Great Unrequired Impossible love of my life” , shows Sun conjunct Neptune and SN , in Scorpio VII . This is a complicated question and needs a subtle analysis in the chart, but on the whole, planets in the first house side of the angle center around the development of a healthy sense of Self, of ego, whereas planets on the 12th house side of the angle will be dealing with karma surrounding ego choices, and the planets will take on a more archetypal energy and effect. so we find the True in each other. Your article is amazing! When the progressed Moon entered Eric’s 12th house, his publishing company started to fail. Often, Sun/Neptune relationships just fade away or dissolve without anyone knowing why. venus+mars, etc. We feel that very beautiful in our life! There are two conjunctions with ascendent as well. This is brilliant and compassionate. Maybe someone else on the page will have an answer for you. I think that your article is quite amazing, but for those of us who are making these relationships work for us I wish you would have given some cases in which it can work. It makes you feel cozy and complete. Aren’t these positive aspects good enough to sustain a relationship down-to-earth, telling me to forgive and try again or just simply blowing the matter worse and prolonging it?. With 4, 8 and 12 emphasized, you’ll have to deal with one another in an emotionally honest way, no matter what karma you have to work out together. I can honestly say that I love this man from the highest level of my being, but I don’t feel we belong together in a committed relationship. Once they have hammered out their imbalance (too little, too much is often a theme with the 12th) they must find a way to make something real of their inspiration. We don’t really ‘grasp’ what’s in the 12th until we spiritualize it, remove the ego from the planet’s function. His venus also opposed my Lilith in XII., his Pluto also trine my lilith in XII. It has been a long, hard road, but rewarding– and with the planets in Cancer, SO hard to let go. We talk with each other and I know he loved me and still does like me , we talk in the church when we can but none of us really telling the real story (which is so 12 house thing). I’m trying to determine the karmic lessons we need to learn from this. Concentrate on intimacy and you should be all right. Our physical connection was addicting. I turned to astrology and within months I learnt a lot of things about this topic. Since each of us share a natal 12th house dominion, then repeated in a shared composite strength, what you have said in your 12th house explanations all seem to feel so true. The Davison chart is a time/space chart and is anchored in the here and now. It’s a huge task, but often one the 12th house couple is uniquely suited for.]. I’m kinda tired of dancing with men who enjoy attempting control and am tired of the endlessly unavailable creatures that keep crossing my path in life. Please advise if we can make it to marriage or our relationship is doomed. The Moon squares Mercury and Venus in the 9th, Pluto and Saturn in the 3rd, and squares the MC. You can imagine the past 10 years have not been easy. The relationship has been on & off, again and again for 28 years. Obviously, I thought this man was my soulmate. I cannot really make that happen now I don’t know why but I’m still thinking that he is my faith or not, everything is very confused. Often, fearful of your vulnerability, you block awareness of your feelings; you seek refuge from your inner world in habitual activities which you may perform in an automatic manner. I cannot be happy with him (I feel happy but it doesn’t last any longer) or without him. If I murdered this illusion, it would be like if I murdered my own soul ; I just can’t . Thank you very much for the answer. Sometimes we will be asked to make leaps of faith. Masculine & Feminine Signs: Are you More Masculine or Feminine? Noticed he has moved on and I want to let go and move on too, hoping that the story will not repeat itself again. Please can someone find me some positive end result here because I have not too much hope after reading that article aboyt the 12 house and I am going insane because I can not really tell anyone what is going on in my life> (husband, kids or even him)I do not want to hurt anybody’s life but that means I have to give up my love which is just to hurtful to do! Ive recently broke up with what was felt “the love of my life” the most pure and locvng relationship ever. I might even say he’s one of the closest people to me. I think the fact that we’re both artists gave this aspect an outlet. I am a strong 12th houser myself and it meant so much to me that we could live together and I never felt my precious solitude was infringed upon. Our ascendant is also pisces but our Uranus-Venus opposite position makes lots of deals in our relationship besides the 12th and 6th house. !! We are just in the beginning so should I try this relationship or just let it go? Neptune tries to tell us that we can’t own anything permanently, and if we try to possess and not understand the message of universal love (love is its own reward) it will pry our grasping fingers off of whatever we are trying to hold on to. He is a pisces rising with neptune conjunct his midheaven. My progressed Uranus will be in my 7th house for the rest of my life. One valuable lesson I learned is to refrain being attached to an outcome with him. Neptune’s great teaching is that love is a powerful force in and of itself, and should not be used as a binder. so beautiful and so healing especially the last paragraph. I don’t want to lose this relationship too so I would like to help me to find out the karmic lesson. But someone who tells you they love you every day and tries to break up with you every month is clearly not. (You can have this without the 12th of course, but the 12th is inclined to it.) the sun and jupiter are conjunct the IC at 23-26 degrees libra and then merc/pluto/venus conjunct at 9 degrees scorpio. His natal Venus in cancer is in my 12house. Thanks for this very interesting article about that controversial 12th house… and I totally agree with your final paragraph. They seem bonded before a word is spoken. We have Uranus, Mercury, Neptune, Saturn, North Node, Sun in the 12th. )~~~a reader with Sun in Neptune and Saturn and Mars both in 12th house. Hi!! I am in a relationship with a man for 14 years in which we have an extremely strong synastry including my saturn conjunct his venus by degree, his saturn/node conjunct my sun/chiron by degree. The twelfth house is about vocation, our divine calling, and is a very different energy from the status-oriented tenth. thanks Dawn for your reply. I noticed you don’t offer composite readings…. The Mars/Neptune square did bring an element of slipperiness, but mostly irritating fibbing on his part. Long story short it really bothered me that I can not tell him how I really feel about him because we are both ironically attending church but I felt that he really likes me as well. I am surprised I did not find it and comment earlier, as I am still haunted by the same relationship 2 years after it ended. On the one hand “We are meant to be…” on the other, “But if we are, why is it so hard?”, When a couple has planets, or an important planet, in the 12th, it can go a couple of ways. In fact, it seems we are even more a part of each other’s lives than ever. Sun and Neptune both trine Lilith, who is in Pisces AND in house 12. Though many of the things you have said have been true, and there are challenges, I know we are committed to knowing each other and spending this precious time together. It has left a hole in my heart, (composite chiron conjunct asc) and I suffered from insomnia regretting I should or shouldn’t have done. Well, his descendant point, and his ascendant ruler both conjunct my natal Lilith in my12 th house, orb2°. What is it that makes it work? . Your emotional reaction to the world, other people, and new situations is highlighted when the composite moon is in the first house. Or … ? We have experienced together so much and it helps my mental developement so much and also your idea about ‘loving and letting go’ interests me a lot. I fell onto another man after that whom I had a very deep dark sexual connection to and whom I shared a heavy 8th composite chart with. More, we have a 5 cluster Scorpio in 9 (Moon, Venus, Neptune, Jupiter and Mercury), a composite Sun in Sag in 10, with Pluto and Uranus conjunct in 7 and unaspectted Gemini NN in 4… we also have a lot of 6/12 house contacts in synastry and 21 conjunctions (far from being easy!) My fiance and I have an exact conjunction of Sun/Mercury in the 12th in Taurus – with Venus also being the chart ruler and placed in the 1st. I haven’t spoken to him in a couple of years and my heart is still broken. The interesting thing is that we have a very unconventional relationship, mainly as friends and close allies in a spiritual cause (with the mission of saving the world, essentially), but with a new dimension of intense emotional and physical intimacy. In other words, when they simply trust in each other and in a larger reason for their union that goes beyond anything that can be understood with anything other than faith. Also my moon is conjuct to his sun both ways. PS.. he’s the very first guy I ever met who knew and talked about astrology! Outer planets have to do with things that are beyond our control. What would you say about a composite Scorpio Juno in the 12th house, conjunct to the asteroid Valentine and squaring the north and south node? In the composite chart, the moon in the ninth house gives an "us looking in" perspective. We fall, and find the world. Thank you for your answer. His sun, mercury and chiron is in the 12 house in his natal chart. My sun in the 3rd is squeezed in a T-square between Saturn in Pisces, in the 6th and Pluto/Uranus in Virgo, in the 12th. I can’t make a decision of whether to stay or leave without more clarity… it feels like we aren’t done learning what we need to learn together, but staying together in this state where she doesn’t desire me is agony.
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